Lord Forbes

Premier Lord of Scotland
Lord Forbes
Creation datecirca 1436
Created byJames II
PeeragePeerage of Scotland
First holderAlexander de Forbes
Present holderMalcolm Nigel Forbes, 23rd Lord Forbes
Heir apparentGeordie Malcolm Andrew Forbes
Seat(s)Forbes Castle, Alford, Aberdeenshire
[1][2]

Lord Forbes is the senior Lordship of Parliament in the Peerage of Scotland.

The title was created sometime after 1436 for Alexander de Forbes, feudal baron of Forbes. The precise date of the creation is not known, but in a Precept dated July 12, 1442, he is already styled Lord Forbes. Brown's 1834 Peerage of Scotland gives a creation year of 1440. Alexander's descendant, the twelfth Lord, served as Lord Lieutenant of Aberdeenshire and Kincardineshire. His great-grandson, the seventeenth Lord, was a general in the Army and sat in the House of Lords as a Scottish representative peer from 1806 to 1843. His son, the eighteenth Lord, fought at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815.[3]

He was succeeded by his son, the nineteenth Lord. He was a Scottish Representative Peer from 1874 to 1906. His nephew, the twenty-first Lord, served as a Scottish Representative Peer between 1917 and 1924. The latter's son, the twenty-second Lord, sat in the House of Lords as a Scottish Representative Peer from 1955 to 1963, when all Scottish peers were given an automatic seat in the House of Lords, and served in the Conservative administration of Harold Macmillan as Minister of State for Scotland from 1958 to 1959.[4] The title is currently held by his son, Malcolm Nigel, the twenty-third Lord Forbes, who succeeded in 2013. Lord Forbes is Chief of Clan Forbes.

Hon. Patrick Forbes, third son of the second Lord Forbes, was the ancestor of both the Earls of Granard and the Forbes baronets of Craigievar. Also, the Lords Forbes of Pitsligo were descended from Sir William Forbes, brother of Alexander Forbes, 1st Lord Forbes.

The family seat is Castle Forbes near Alford, Aberdeenshire.

Numbering matter

John Forbes (1570–1606), the elder surviving son of John Forbes, 8th Lord Forbes, became a friar and seemingly abandoned his claim to the Lordship. He died later in the same year (1606) as his father and there would be dispute over whether to count his brief succession in the numbering of Lordships. The question was most recently (As of 2023[update]) settled in 1955, stating that he was not to be considered a Lord Forbes and his younger brother would be their father's immediate successor as Arthur Forbes, 9th Lord Forbes.[5]

Lords Forbes (c. 1444)

Castle Forbes, Aberdeenshire - the family seat
  • 1st 1445–1448: Alexander Forbes (c. 1380–1448)
  • 2nd 1448–c. 1461: James Forbes (d. 1462, son of 1st Lord)
  • 3rd c. 1461–by 1488: William Forbes (d. 1483)
  • 4th by 1488–c. 1491: Alexander Forbes (d.c. 1491, son of 3rd Lord)
  • 5th c. 1491c. 1496: Arthur Forbes (d.c. 1496, son of 3rd Lord)
  • 6th c. 1496–1547: John Forbes (d. 1547, son of 3rd Lord)
  • 7th 1547–1593: William Forbes (1513–1593, son of 6th Lord)
  • 8th 1593–1606: John Forbes (1542–1606, son of 7th Lord)
  • 9th 1606–after 1634 : Arthur Forbes (1581–1641, son of 8th Lord)
  • 10th after 1634–1672: Alexander Forbes (1600–1672, son of 9th Lord) (m. Anne, daughter of John Lord Forbes of Pitsligo)
  • 11th 1672–1697: William Forbes (d. 1697, son of 10th Lord & Anne)
  • 12th 1697–1716: William Forbes (1656–1716, son of William, 11th Lord)
  • 13th 1716–1730: William Forbes (d. 1730, son of 12th Lord)
  • 14th 1730–1734: Francis Forbes (1721–1734, son of 13th Lord)
  • 15th 1734–1761: James Forbes (1689–1761, 2nd son of William, 11th Lord) (m. Mary, daughter of Alexander, third Lord Forbes of Pitsligo)
  • 16th 1761–1804: James Forbes (1725–1804, son of James, 15th Lord) (m. Catherine)
  • 17th 1804–1843: James Ochoncar Forbes (1765–1843,[6] son of 16th Lord and Catherine)
  • 18th 1843–1868: Walter Forbes (1798–1868, son of 17th Lord)
  • 19th 1868–1914: Horace Courtenay Gammell Forbes (1829–1914, elder son of Walter, 18th Lord)[6]
  • 20th 1914–1916: Atholl Monson Forbes (1841–1916, younger son of Walter, 18th Lord)
  • 21st 1916–1953: Atholl Laurence Cunyngham (1882–1953, son of 20th Lord)[6]
  • 22nd 1953–2013: Nigel Ivan Forbes (1918–2013, son of 21st Lord)[6]
  • 23rd 2013–present: Malcolm Nigel Forbes (b. 1946, son of 22nd Lord)

The heir apparent is the present holder's grandson, Geordie Malcolm Andrew Forbes (b. 2010), styled Master of Forbes

Family tree

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Forbes family tree
John de Forbes
Lord Forbes, c. 1444
Alexander Forbes
(c. 1380–1448)
1st Lord Forbes c. 1444–1448
James Forbes
(d. 1462)
2nd Lord Forbes 1448–c. 1461
William Forbes
(d. 1483)
3rd Lord Forbes c. 1461–by 1488
Duncan ForbesPatrick Forbes
Alexander Forbes
(d.c. 1491)
4th Lord Forbes by 1488–c. 1491
Arthur Forbes
(d.c. 1496)
5th Lord Forbes c. 1491c. 1496
John Forbes
(d. 1547)
6th Lord Forbes c. 1496–1547
Forbes, later Stuart-Forbes, of Monymusk Forbes, of Castle Forbes
William Forbes
(1513–1593)
7th Lord Forbes 1547–1593
John Forbes
(1542–1606)
First called "Master of Forbes", then 8th Lord Forbes 1593–1606
William Forbes of Corse Castle
(d. 1627)
Forbes baronets, of Castle Forbes, 1628
William Forbes
(1563–1592)
John Forbes
(1570–1606)
"(9th) Lord Forbes" 1606–1606
His brief lordship was disputed and retroactively discounted.[a][7]
Arthur Forbes
(1581–1641)
9th Lord Forbes 1606–after 1634
John Forbes 8th of Pitsligo
(d. 1625)
William of CraigievarArthur Forbes
d. 1632
1st Baronet of Castle Forbes
Lord Forbes of Pitsligo, 1633Forbes baronets, of Craigievar Castle, in the County of Aberdeen, 1630Viscount Granard and Baron Clanehugh, 1675
Earl of Granard, 1684
Alexander Forbes
(1600–1672)
10th Lord Forbes after 1634–1672
AnneAlexander Forbes
(d. 1636)
1st Lord Forbes of Pitsligo 1633–1636
William Forbes, 1st Baronet
d. 1648
1st Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1630–1648
Arthur Forbes
1623–1695
1st Earl of Granard, 1st Viscount Granard, 1st Baron Clanehugh, 2nd Baronet of Castle Forbes
William Forbes
(d. 1697)
11th Lord Forbes after 1672–1697
John Forbes of Moneymusk
(d.c. 1713)
3rd Baronet of Monymusk
Alexander Forbes
(d. 1690)
2nd Lord Forbes of Pitsligo 1636–1690
Alexander Forbes of Foveran (d. 1697)John Forbes, 2nd Baronet ("Red Sir John")
(1636–1703)
2nd Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1648–1703
Arthur Forbes
(c. 1656–1734)
2nd Earl of Granard, 2nd Viscount Granard, 2nd Baron Clanehugh, 3rd Baronet of Castle Forbes
William Forbes
(1656–1716)
12th Lord Forbes 1697–1716
William Forbes of Monymusk
4th Baronet of Monymusk
John Forbes
(b. 1680)
Alexander Forbes
(c. 1655–1690)
3rd Lord Forbes of Pitsligo 1690–1690
Sir Samuel Forbes, 1st Baronet
(1653–1717)
1st Baronet of Foveran
John Forbes, of KnapernaWilliam Forbes, 3rd Baronet
(1660–c. 1730)
3rd Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1703–c. 1730
George Forbes
(1685–1765)
3rd Earl of Granard, 3rd Viscount Granard, 3rd Baron Clanehugh, 4th Baronet of Castle Forbes
William Forbes
(d. 1730)
13th Lord Forbes 1716–1730
James Forbes
(1689–1761)
15th Lord Forbes 1734–1761
Mary ForbesJohn Forbes
(d. 1715)
Alexander Forbes
(1678–1762)
4th Lord Forbes of Pitsligo 1691–1748
William ForbesSir Alexander Forbes, 2nd Baronet
(d. before 1755)
2nd Baronet of Foveran
Samuel Forbes, of KnapernaSir Arthur Forbes, 4th Baronet
(1709–1773)
4th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray c. 1730–1773
George Forbes
1710–1769
4th Earl of Granard, 4th Viscount Granard, 4th Baron Clanehugh, 5th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Lordship Forbes of Pitsligo attainted, 1748
Francis Forbes
(1721–1734)
14th Lord Forbes 1730–1734
James Forbes
(c. 1725–1804)
16th Lord Forbes 1761–1804
William Forbes
(d. 1743)
5th Baronet of Edinburgh 1720–1743
Christian Forbes
(1705–1789)
Forbes Baronets of Newe in the County of Aberdeen Sir Charles Forbes, 1st Baronet
(1774–1849)
1st Baronet of Newe 1823–1849
Sir John Forbes, 3rd Baronet
(d.c. 1760)
3rd Baronet of Knaperna
George Forbes
(1740–1780)
5th Earl of Granard, 5th Viscount Granard, 5th Baron Clanehugh, 6th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Baronetcy of Foveran/Knaperna dormant, c. 1760
Baron Granard (UK), 1806
James Ochoncar Forbes
(1765–1843)
17th Lord Forbes 1804–1843
William Forbes
(1739–1806)
6th Baronet of Edinburgh, and later Pitsligo 1743–1806
William Forbes
(1755–1816)
5th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1773–1816
George Forbes
(1760–1837)
6th Earl of Granard, 6th Viscount Granard, 6th Baron Clanehugh, 1st Baron Granard, 7th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Walter Gammell Forbes
(1798–1868)
18th Lord Forbes 1843–1868
Charlotte ElizabethWilliam Forbes
(1773–1828)
7th Baronet of Pitsligo 1806–1828
[m. Williamina, daughter of Sir John Stuart/Belshes/Belshes-Wishart (3rd Baronet (S. 1707) of Fettercairn co. Kincardine]
Arthur Forbes, 6th Baronet
(1784–1823)
6th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1816–1823
John Forbes, 7th Baronet
(1785–1846)
7th Baronet of Craigevar and Fintray 1823–1846
George Forbes
(1785–1836)
styled Viscount Forbes
John Stuart Hepburn Forbes
(1804–1866)
8th Baronet of Fettercairn and Pitsligo and later of Invermay and Balmanno 1828–1866
[Inherited Invermay and Balmanno as heir and cousin of Alexander Hepburn-Murray-Belshes (d. 1864)]
Charles Hay Forbes
(d. 1859)
William Forbes-Sempill
(1836–1905)
17th Lord Sempill 1884–1905 and 8th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1846–1905
(married Carlone Louisa, daughter of Charles Forbes, 3rd Baronet of Newe)
James Ochoncar Forbes
(1837–1900)
George Arthur Hastings Forbes
(1833–1889)
7th Earl of Granard, 7th Viscount Granard, 7th Baron Clanehugh, 2nd Baron Granard, 8th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Horace Courtenay Gammell Forbes
(1829–1914)
19th Lord Forbes 1868–1914
Atholl Monson Forbes
(1841–1916)
20th Lord Forbes 1914–1916
William Forbes
(1835–1906)
9th Baronet of Fettercairn, Pitsligo, Invermay, and Balmanno 1866–1906
John Forbes-Sempill
(1863–1934)
18th Lord Sempill and 9th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1905–1934
Arthur Lionel Ochoncar Forbes-Sempill
(1877–1962)
James Ochoncar Forbes
(1867–1945)
Bernard Arthur William Patrick Hastings Forbes
(1874–1948)
8th Earl of Granard, 8th Viscount Granard, 8th Baron Clanehugh, 3rd Baron Granard, 9th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Atholl Laurence Cunyngham
(1882–1953)
21st Lord Forbes 1916–1953
William Francis Forbes-Sempill
(1893–1965)
19th Lord Sempill and 10th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1934–1965
Nigel Ivan Forbes
(1918–2013)
22nd Lord Forbes 1953–2013
Ann Forbes-Sempill
(1920–1995)
20th Lady Sempill
Ewan Forbes
(1912–1991)
11th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1965–1991
Patrick Walter Forbes
(1914–1979)
Arthur Patrick Hastings Forbes
(1915–1992)
9th Earl of Granard, 9th Viscount Granard, 9th Baron Clanehugh, 4th Baron Granard, 10th Baronet of Castle Forbes
John Forbes
(1920–1982)
John Alexander Cumnock Forbes
(1927–2000)
12th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 1991–2000
Malcolm Nigel Forbes
(b. 1946)
23rd Lord Forbes 2013–present
James Sempill
(b. 1949)
21st Lord Sempill
Andrew Iain Ochoncar Forbes
(1945–2003)[8]
13th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 2000–2003
Peter Arthur Edward Hastings Forbes
(b. 1957)
10th Earl of Granard, 10th Viscount Granard, 10th Baron Clanehugh, 5th Baron Granard, 11th Baronet of Castle Forbes
Francis Henry William Sempill
(b. 1979)
styled Master of Sempill
James Patrick Ochoncar Forbes
(b. 1986)
14th Baronet of Craigievar and Fintray 2003–present
David Ian Ochoncar Forbes
(b. 1993)
Heir presumptive to the Baronetage of Craigievar and Fintray
Jonathan Peter Hastings Forbes
b. 1981
styled Viscount Forbes
  1. ^ The numbering dispute vacillated over the years and was most recently (As of 2023[update]) settled in 2018.

See also

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Notes

References

  1. ^ The Scots Peerage
  2. ^ Brown, Peter, (publisher), The Peerage of Scotland, Edinburgh, 1834, p. 170.
  3. ^ Anderson, William (1867). The Scottish Nation. Vol. iv. Edinburgh. p. 228.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  4. ^ Kidd, Charles, & Williamson, David (editors), Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage, New York, St Martin's Press, 1990.
  5. ^ "John Forbes - The Lord Who Wasn't". Retrieved 15 November 2023.
  6. ^ a b c d "Representative peers - Scotland". Leigh Rayment's Peerage. Archived from the original on 7 June 2008. Retrieved 22 September 2015.
  7. ^ "John Forbes - The Lord Who Wasn't". Retrieved 15 November 2023.
  8. ^ "Forbes of Corse". Register. The Times. No. 74045. London. 16 March 2023. col 5, p. 55.

Sources

  • Kidd, Charles (1903). Debrett's peerage, baronetage, knightage, and companionage. London: Dean & Son. p. 388.
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